Posts by bats in the belfry

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Asking for confirmation: Bethel factory in Germany

by bats in the belfry in

in january 2015 my devout and longtime 'in the truth' jw relatives (50+ years) went to the german bethel factory in selters.

they were shocked seeing an near empty factory floor and were told that some printing presses supposedly have been sold to 'worldy' companies.i got to hear the stunning admission out of their mouths: "we left with the impression they are closing up shop".just whoa!

to me it sounds like a firesale - "because everything must go" (die hard iv).. has anyone else seen the factory in that condition?

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In January 2015 my devout and longtime 'in the truth' JW relatives (50+ years) went to the German Bethel factory in Selters. They were shocked seeing an near empty factory floor and were told that some printing presses supposedly have been sold to 'worldy' companies.

I got to hear the stunning admission out of their mouths: "We left with the impression they are closing up shop".

Just whoa! To me it sounds like a firesale - "because everything must go" (Die Hard IV).

Has anyone else seen the factory in that condition? Or, is it just an overrated personal opinion?

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JW Broadcasting - English language ONLY ?

by bats in the belfry in

just researching, and i came across the tv channel on jw.org.. .

is it only for the anglophone public?

no subtitle when the gb member speaks?

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I'm glad I'm not the only one, Asterix.

After all, the TV clips seem to appeal to the American audience.

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JW Broadcasting - English language ONLY ?

by bats in the belfry in

just researching, and i came across the tv channel on jw.org.. .

is it only for the anglophone public?

no subtitle when the gb member speaks?

bats in the belfry

Just researching, and I came across the TV channel on JW.org.

Is it only for the anglophone public? No subtitle when the GB member speaks? Or, am I missing to change a setting?

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Series of articles about the March 15, 2015 Watchtower on AD1914.com

by Gilgamesh in

over the next 5 weeks, we should have 5 or 6 articles/posts that will provide more commentary on the march 15, 2015 watchtower.

important doctrinal changes in march 15th, 2015 watchtower (study edition) explained wp.me/p4cpzs-xo .

http://ad1914.com/2014/04/20/new-important-doctrinal-changes-in-march-15th-watchtower-study-edition-explained-clarified/.

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"Type and Anti-Type" - F.W. Franz will be impressed.

N.B.: He is not the one dispensing 'truths' from heaven now, or is he?

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When elders became the disfellowshippers instead of the entire congregation.

by tim hooper in

i'm trying to find the wt instructions for this procedure.

extensive googling brings up watchtower 1944 may 15 p.151 as the reference.

anyone able to look up the reference?

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As well: Shunning - The Article that started so much pain and heartbreak (WT 1944, May 15)

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http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/239438/1/Shunning-The-Article-that-started-so-much-pain-and-heartbreak-WT-1944-May-15

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Anyone have a scan of WT Feb 1938 Edition with a Title "Should they Marry"?

by Matt_fs in

can't seem to find online, wondering if anyone has access to it?.

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thank you in advance.

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You can download the entire pdf WT 1938 volume here:

https://ia600304.us.archive.org/27/items/WatchtowerLibrary/magazines/w/w1938_E.pdf

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or use this:

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October 1914? Really?

by sylvlef in

km august 2014, page 3 paragraph 6(article for this week's service meeting):.

"the month of october 2014 will see the 100th anniversary of the establishment of the kingdom.

for this occasion a special edition of the watchtower will be on this theme.".

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jwfacts >>> It would be interesting to know when it moved back to Oct.

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The earliest indication of moving the date of the 'gentile times' ending back to October 1914 I could reference to the WT issue of October 15, 1945, page 308, par 8.

The next one followed in the WT issue of November 1, 1949, page 331, par. 24.

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October 1914? Really?

by sylvlef in

km august 2014, page 3 paragraph 6(article for this week's service meeting):.

"the month of october 2014 will see the 100th anniversary of the establishment of the kingdom.

for this occasion a special edition of the watchtower will be on this theme.".

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Oubliette >>> October 2, 1914 . . . or, was it?

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Just guessing, but Rutherford must have dealt with Russell's diary in a folklorish way.

JFR insisted on the date of August 1914. And, btw, the WT May 1, 1922 issue reads "on the first day of October 1914", whereas the "Revelation - Its Grand Climax At Hand" book reads October 2, 1914. Go, figure!

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October 1914? Really?

by sylvlef in

km august 2014, page 3 paragraph 6(article for this week's service meeting):.

"the month of october 2014 will see the 100th anniversary of the establishment of the kingdom.

for this occasion a special edition of the watchtower will be on this theme.".

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jwfacts >>> 2nd Oct 1914 has always been the end of the Gentile times.

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Until the mid 1920s it was more like a dual approach.

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Watchtower - December 1, 1919

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Watchtower - January 1, 1923

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Booklet: "A Desirable Goverment", 1924

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stupid statement in watchtower about appointments of elders

by hoser in

after going through all the processes of how they appointed elders in the past they say this:.

"the elders in turn would inform the newly appointed men of their appointment, asking them if they were willing and actually qualified to accept the assignment.

so after qualifying the man you ask him if he is qualified.. .

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Who knows of the shortest time between appointment and deletion of an elder?

In my memory of ample happenings I recall in one case a 16 day period in between those two events.